tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post7184243317197942566..comments2023-09-30T09:11:03.048-04:00Comments on SpottedRatings.com: 2013 Upfront Questions, ABCSpothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-33758929008608483242013-05-11T19:32:21.474-04:002013-05-11T19:32:21.474-04:00Here's what ABC decided to keep.
Comedies:
R...Here's what ABC decided to keep.<br /><br />Comedies:<br /><br />Renewed:<br />Last Man Standing<br />The Middle<br />Modern Family<br /><b>The Neighbors</b><br />Suburgatory<br /><br />Cancelled:<br />Don't Trust The B---- in Apartment 23<br /><b>Family Tools</b><br />Happy Endings<br /><b>How To Live With Your Parents...</b><br /><b>Malibu Country</b><br /><br />Dramas:<br /><br />Renewed:<br />Castle<br />Grey's Anatomy<br /><b>Nashville</b><br />Once Upon A Time<br />Revenge<br />Scandal<br /><br /><br />Cancelled:<br /><b>666 Park Avenue</b><br />Body Of Proof<br /><b>Last Resort</b><br /><b>Red Widow</b><br /><b>Zero Hour</b><br /><br /><br />Pilot Pick-ups:<br /><br />Comedies:<br /><br />The Goldbergs (single-camera)(used to be How the Hell Am I Normal?)<br />Mixology (single)<br />Back in the Game (single)<br />Super Fun Night (single)<br />Trophy Wife (single)<br /><br /><br />Dramas:<br />Betrayal<br />Mind Games (used to be Influence)<br />Killer Women<br />Lucky 7<br />The Returned<br />S.H.I.E.L.DSpothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-72837858355537290322013-05-09T11:24:31.366-04:002013-05-09T11:24:31.366-04:00I have just replied to the Shield on Tuesday thing...I have just replied to the Shield on Tuesday thing to Chris L. but my point is that Mondays neeed something to anchor them. I think OUAT and Revenge are strong enough to stabilize Tuesdays but I don't think they can handle Mondays. Sure, it would be nice to maximize Shield's ratings, but I don't see the point of having such a mega hit on Tuesdays if Mondays are left to die.<br /><br />The Shark Tank move, I would do it, but I need to minimize moves with this schedule. If they don't move DWTS (which is the first thing they must do, IMO), then I am up for it, otherwise no. And there is one other point, which is the fact that comedies on Tuesday probably have a chance of being new, high testing comedies, while comedies on fridays would be, most likely, second tier players from wednesdays, like the neighbors. <br /><br />On to the cw later ;)Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-9260870849111550442013-05-09T11:21:56.378-04:002013-05-09T11:21:56.378-04:00I understand the point of using Tuesdays to launch...I understand the point of using Tuesdays to launch Shield, but the point is that I have no idea what else could work on Mondays then. DWTS is not working and it has to be moved, as I vastly stated above, but that means that Mondays, arguably a much tougher night than Tuesdays, will need something to anchor them big time, and the only show I see capable of doing that is Shield.<br /><br />As for Nashville although I wouldn't mind moving it (ideally, I would actually can it because I think it doesn't have growth potential), I just don't have the room in my schedule for my moves, so I don't think it is worth moving it to Sundays at 10 to launch the new thing Wednesdays at 10. In a vacuum, it sounds good, but overall, I think the net result would be very similar and it would be one extra mve to promote.<br /><br />But I do agree that ABC is pretty interesting for the upfronts (even though I suspect that it will not move DWTS and disappoint us all). But actually, FOX got pretty interesting too with the amount of orders it has made and CBS is also very interesting due to the comedy expansion or no thing. But ABC could be the biggest game changer IMO.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-74774977353560199712013-05-09T02:59:23.838-04:002013-05-09T02:59:23.838-04:00The thing with ABC is that you could come up with ...The thing with ABC is that you could come up with about fifty different fantasy schedules - and none of them will match the actual announced fall schedule!<br /><br />I'll offer up something radical.<br /><br />Monday: 8 Batchelor/DWTS/Batchelorette, 10 Castle<br /><br />I like the suggestion of shifting the reality to Sunday. Here's why I'm not doing that.<br /><br />Tuesday fall/spring: 8 SHIELD, 9 Big Thunder, 10 Influence<br />Tuesday winter: 8 new reality, 9 DWTS results, 10 BoP<br /><br />And just like that, you focus ABC's promotional efforts on Stupor Tuesday, the biggest opportunity in television... and you give them a midseason hiatus that allows them to run repeat-free throughout the fall and spring!<br /><br />Wednesday: 8 The Middle, 8:30 Suburgatory, 9 Modern Family, 9:30 How The Hell Am I Normal?, 10 Nashville<br /><br />Minimise the Wednesday changes to one new MF lead-out and you fire up Tuesday.<br /><br />Thursday: 8 Primetime Nightline, 9 Grey's, 10 Scandal<br /><br />Grey's is the biggest self-starter in television. Why even bother trying in your zero hour when you don't need to?<br /><br />Friday: 8 Last Man Standing, 8:30 Spy, 9 Shark Tank, 10 20/20<br /><br />I don't see how any of the other sitcom pilots fit as an LMS leadout.<br /><br />Sunday fall/spring: 7 AFV, 8 OUAT, 9 Gothica, 10 Revenge<br /><br />Sunday winter: 7 AFV, 8 Wife Swap, 9 new non-serial reality<br /><br />Because for crying out loud you do not give serials sporadic airings that include event season. Basically ABC need the next Extreme Makeover: Home Edition to go here, and a two-hour 9-11 show is the way to go to shore up 10.<br /><br />Either side of event season, Revenge gives 10pm a known quantity, and Gothica acts as counterprogramming against TWD, SNF, and whatever dudecoms (animated and/or, as I'm suspecting with all the sitcoms Fox just picked up, otherwise).<br /><br />On the bench: Lucky 7, Super Fun Night, The Neighbors, and (given ABC) probably about half a dozen others.<br /><br />4 new dramas, 2 new comedies... and 1 (one) timeslot change, and that within the same night. The latter is why I'm not shifting DWTS to Sunday as well as giving it the blatantly necessary hold to January.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-61292967357983032462013-05-07T22:22:39.691-04:002013-05-07T22:22:39.691-04:00I see the logic in your schedule. But I would actu...I see the logic in your schedule. But I would actually flip Monday and Tuesday entirely because I think there's a greater upside to S.H.I.E.L.D. on Tuesdays. With so much ratings firepower from other networks on Mondays (Voice, HIMYM, MNF), I'd rather see ABC swing harder on Tuesdays where the only difficult sledding is against NCIS and Voice.<br /><br />I'd like to see how Nashville would do paired with one of ABC's reality shows (ideally The Bachelor) just because I think it'd have more growth potential that way. And yes, I don't think Shark Tank would see more year-to-year growth on a weeknight. But even the high 1's that it could pull would be an improvement to ABC's Tuesdays or Thursday at 8, and it'd probably earn more in ad revenue as well.<br /><br />All these different combinations make ABC the most interesting wildcard for upfronts as so many justifiable schedules could be made.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-85666397949435867162013-05-07T20:23:04.700-04:002013-05-07T20:23:04.700-04:00I agree with the broadest stroke (reality to Sunda...I agree with the broadest stroke (reality to Sunday). My biggest difference is I put SHIELD on Tuesday simply because the Tuesday 9-11 area is so ridiculously exploitable.<br /><br />I'm with you on the Shark Tank/comedies analysis and basically said as much above, but ideally I would move Shark Tank to Tuesday just to assure SHIELD has a stable lead-in. That to me would be worth a (small) hit in the combined ratings between Tue 8pm and Fri 9pm.<br /><br />I actually have stronger disagreements with your "simple" CW sked! ;-)Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-41866264060860767912013-05-07T20:11:52.257-04:002013-05-07T20:11:52.257-04:00I think if they put the reality franchises on Sund...I think if they put the reality franchises on Sunday, there would probably still be that prolonged "filler" period during event/Olympics season, and just one season of each franchise. DWTS would launch at around the time Celebrity Apprentice usually does.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-10921717183461754232013-05-07T20:08:53.359-04:002013-05-07T20:08:53.359-04:00This may be the hardest one. ABC doesn't have ...This may be the hardest one. ABC doesn't have a lot of big name flops like Mob Doctor or Go On, but they have a lot of shows like Suburgatory and Nashville that aren't really doing that well. Anything that's doing well, I'm not messing with. Everything else will involve rather aggressive time-sharing to limit momentum-killing reruns for the <br /><br />I have to say that I'm not sold on TGIF. Not when Shark Tank is averaging 1.88 this season with a weak lead-in. Networks can't afford to just throw that away. Not on a bunch of Wednesday cast-offs. We saw what happened with NBC Thursday and FOX Tuesday. Four comedies does not a block make. <br /><br />Monday:<br /><br />8: The Bachelor/Dancing with the Stars<br />10: Betrayal/Lucky 7<br /><br />Tuesday<br /><br />8: Last Man Standing<br />8:30: King John <br />9: SHIELD<br />10: Castle/Body of Proof<br /><br />Wednesday:<br /><br />8: The Middle<br />8:30: Trophy Wife<br />9: Modern Family<br />9:30: How the Hell Am I Normal?<br />10: Super Fun Night<br />10:30: Pulling/Mixology<br /><br />Thursday<br /><br />8: Reality<br />9: Grey's Anatomy<br />10: Scandal<br /><br />Friday:<br />8: Suburgatory<br />8:30: The Neighbors<br />9: Shark Tank<br />10: 20/20<br /><br />Sunday (Fall):<br /><br />7: America's Funniest Home Videos<br />8: Once Upon A Time<br />9: Betrayal<br />10: Nashville<br /><br />Sunday (Spring):<br /><br />7: AFV<br />8: Wonderland<br />9: Revenge<br />10: GothicaSpothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-36019357600882687492013-05-07T19:40:34.188-04:002013-05-07T19:40:34.188-04:00If, by any chance, anyone has actually read throug...If, by any chance, anyone has actually read through all this, I would love feedback on this one. From all my schedules (except possibly the cw, but that is very simple), this is the one I like the most, by far.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-25328815757142202522013-05-07T19:30:36.483-04:002013-05-07T19:30:36.483-04:00That's not weird. In fact, I have a theory on...That's not weird. In fact, I have a theory on that. It's called "Slater's a showkiller, steer clear at all costs".Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-44035702714204133572013-05-07T19:30:18.866-04:002013-05-07T19:30:18.866-04:00So, this would all mean:
Monday [Promote the supe...So, this would all mean:<br /><br />Monday [Promote the super new fantasy block together]:<br />Shield<br />Big Thunder<br /><br />Castle<br /><br />Tuesday [Promote the Sunday moves together]<br />New Comedy<br />New Comedy*<br />Once Upon a Time/ OUAT Spin-off/ Once Upon a Time<br /><br />Revenge/ Betrayal/ Revenge<br /><br /><br /><br />*Renew the Neighbors as backup<br /><br /><br /><br />Wednesday<br />The Middle<br />Suburgatory<br />Modern Family<br />How to Live with Your Parents<br />Nashville [13 eps order only to see if it grows, if not, can it come midseason]<br /><br /><br /><br />*Please, just stop messing with this block. It can't be impossible to have the same 4 shows airing there an entire season now, can it?<br /><br /><br />Thursday<br />Doubt or Murder in Manhattan<br />Grey’s Anatomy<br />Scandal<br /><br />Friday<br />Last Man Standing<br />Malibu Country<br />Shark Tank<br />20/20<br /><br />Sunday<br />The Bachelor/ Winter Wipeout/ DWTS<br />The Bachelor/ Primetime: What Would You Do?/ DWTS<br />Betrayal [Sounds compatible with the bachelor], but Body of Proof will most likely end up here come midseasonSpothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-14559721547418117532013-05-07T19:21:40.866-04:002013-05-07T19:21:40.866-04:00Sundays/Mondays/Tuesdays (I am basically going to ...Sundays/Mondays/Tuesdays (I am basically going to copy what I have written on the power rankings):<br /><br />- I think DWTS belongs on Sundays now as counterprogramming against the male skewing stuff that is going on in there [TWD, GoT, Football, Fox Cartoons]. The Voice is simply murdering it and there is no way it can survive while facing it. I don't think the move per se will be enough now though, I think i also needs to rest for a while to get back stronger (a la TBL this year, or even The Bachelor). For that reason (and also to avoid the problem of the UK edition, which takes place in the fall), I would move it to Sundays spring and have the bachelor there Sundays fall. The reasoning is the same (good female programming against all the male skewing stuff). If both franchises can settle within mid 2s range, I think that would be a big victory for ABC reality.<br /><br />- I think Sundays, Mondays and Tuesdays (with the exception of Castle) need to be 100% revamped. I am completely against the idea of moving DWTS to Thursday/Friday because ABC has three nights that are not working at all for them and three nights that are (Wed, Thursd, Frid - albeit with some worse hours, but they are overall great here, comparatively speaking). The move would leave one night unfixed (Sundays), it would leave Monday and Tuesdays exposed to risk, and it would also leave Thursdays and Fridays exposed to risk (there is never a guarantee that a move can work)!! I simply don't understand the idea of messing with what is working to solve an issue if you can mess with what is not working in order to do so. Plus, I honestly can't think of any other possible solution for Sundays and they are a big problem for ABC right now IMO.<br /><br />- I would use a combination of reallocated Revenge, Once Upon a Time, always reliable Castle and new strong shows with buzz (a la Shield), to completely revamp Mondays and Tuesdays.<br /><br />- In practice, these aren't that many moves (only the reality to Sunday, OUAT and Revenge to Monday/Tuesday), but it still feels like a lot. So I would give ABC's promotional department a break and let the other days remain as they are right now (except for a new show on Thursday). There aren't actually that many no-brainers move that I would make, with the possible exception of the dichotomy: comedies on Tuesday and Shark Tank on Friday vs. comedies on Friday and Shark Tank on Tuesday (and Monday). Still, the way I look at this is: Shark Tank is a Friday megahit, it is hitting 2s on a regular basis now in there and I don't think it would do much better than that on a weekday. The comedies though (either new or returning) are likely to pull even more depressed numbers on Friday than on a weekday. My point? Net net, ABC is better of with comedies on Tuesday and Shark Tank on a Friday. Plus, it is one less move.<br /><br />- The issue of the Thursday at 8slot is, IMO, an issue of scheduling the right thing in there. Put a drama that is low concept (a procedural), that is female skewing and that has broad appeal. Also, it needs to have quality. If you look at all the shows they have put in there (especially those launched in the fall, when chances of succeeding are higher), none of the fulfill all of these characteristics. And they have plenty of pilots that look like they could do so!<br /><br />- Finally, I wouldn't make a decision right now on the DWTS Results Show. It is a filler show at this point and since I am holding DWTS to mid-season, ABC can then reassess the state of its Monday and Tuesday new lineups and see if it could be of need or not. If everything is fine (unlikely), just cancel the damn thing. If not, just plug it somewhere on the Monday/Tuesday schedule.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-41070759265323749942013-05-07T17:25:17.158-04:002013-05-07T17:25:17.158-04:00I know it's silly, but I saw Christian Slater&...I know it's silly, but I saw Christian Slater's name on Influence and ran as far away as I could.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-55600926482653482442013-05-07T16:48:26.483-04:002013-05-07T16:48:26.483-04:00Oversight. Thanks!Oversight. Thanks!Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-12855212330073008092013-05-07T13:32:43.167-04:002013-05-07T13:32:43.167-04:00If S.H.I.E.L.D. lands Thursdays at 8, I can see th...If S.H.I.E.L.D. lands Thursdays at 8, I can see the logic: it's a pre-sold concept that's current, which makes it different from Charlie's Angels. But given how high-profile it would be, I don't see ABC underselling the show. Plus, Disney owns Marvel so the corporate parent also has a vested interest in the show.<br /><br />Ultimately, though, Tuesday across-the-board is a bigger hole than Thursdays at 8 for the Alphabet. So the focus will probably be there. Plus I don't think they want to aim at TV's biggest "geek" night in The Big Bang Theory with S.H.I.E.L.D.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-89584143704202901862013-05-07T12:59:40.791-04:002013-05-07T12:59:40.791-04:00Firstly, I'm confused as to the omission of Fa...Firstly, I'm confused as to the omission of Family Tools from the 2012-13 line-up. Is this deliberate because of the extremely late premiere and low ratings, or an accidental oversight?<br /><br />Secondly, I agree that SHIELD is best-suited for Tuesdays, but that the 9pm hour is where it should be launched so that ABC can avoid having it compete directly w/ The Voice (which seems like a risky proposition for any show right now). Shark Tank might (<i>might</i>) make for a decent filler lead-in if they don't leave Dancing in its current configuration.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.com