tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post5949832262723029335..comments2023-09-30T09:11:03.048-04:00Comments on SpottedRatings.com: Spotted Ratings, Monday 11/17/14Spothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-12777108517694768412014-11-21T19:44:43.820-05:002014-11-21T19:44:43.820-05:00They really did give SOA a bad time slot, holiday ...They really did give SOA a bad time slot, holiday programming, the apprentice won't help it. The show is good but with the amount of promotion that went into it I did think it would be higher.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-18789369574250517842014-11-19T14:22:42.825-05:002014-11-19T14:22:42.825-05:00anybody know what is airing on nbc after the voice...anybody know what is airing on nbc after the voice ends? Apprentice doesn't start until early January.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-31961153104220075592014-11-19T10:48:09.645-05:002014-11-19T10:48:09.645-05:00It's clear that Gary Unmarried was the low sit...It's clear that Gary Unmarried was the low sitcom on the priority totem pole; the combination of needing something to pair with Old Christine and half-owing the sitcom with ABC Studios are probably the reasons why it got a second season.<br /><br /><br />CBS clearly had bigger/younger sitcoms that they believed in at the time (The Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother) and they still tried getting into the single-cam format with Worst Week. Gary should have thanked Worst Week for doing subpar numbers; had Worst succeeded Rules of Engagement would have replaced Gary on Wednesdays.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-65562475309319165902014-11-19T06:12:53.352-05:002014-11-19T06:12:53.352-05:00I think The Millers was cancelled because it just ...I think The Millers was cancelled because it just seemed to be a show that cannot stand on its own. It was once boosted by The Big Bang Theory, but late last season and for the season 2 premiere, even The Big Bang Theory cannot help The Millers and The Millers quickly lose 50% of the lead-in, and now it is also hurting Scorpion. <br />And of course the fact that Mom is able to hit series high twice and perform better despite being in its second season behind The Big Bang Theory really showed that The Millers is the clear weak link.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-8563520614391303092014-11-19T05:14:01.095-05:002014-11-19T05:14:01.095-05:00Come Winter, I will be surprised if it doesn't...Come Winter, I will be surprised if it doesn't do is systematically. Castle is barely beating it now that it has the compatible DWTS lead-in and State of Affairs is only 0.5 higher for the premiere episode and with the voice lead-in. Come winter, castle will have to lead out of the always more incompatible (despite higher rated bachelor) and state of affairs will either be on hiatus or leading out of the apprentice.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-61419658602423131572014-11-19T04:34:14.704-05:002014-11-19T04:34:14.704-05:00I agree entirely with this assessment. I really th...I agree entirely with this assessment. I really thought they had turned it around with TBL in the winter of 2013 but now it's worse than ever.<br /><br />Regarding Ninja Warrior, I am always warry of bringing something that's working well on the summer to the regular season and in this case I don't even think there is an extreme need for it. If they didn't bring Got Talent back to the regular season in the pre-voice years, I don't think they need to mess with Ninja Warrior right now either.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-82981854337963263252014-11-19T04:23:07.059-05:002014-11-19T04:23:07.059-05:00I agree with your takeaways. Revolution premiered ...I agree with your takeaways. Revolution premiered before the season so I understand the lower competition thing. Smash is just terrible regardless of how we look at it, but probably more terrible was the state of NBC that year.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-84491346432698578602014-11-19T04:15:45.369-05:002014-11-19T04:15:45.369-05:00I agree with you that the 25 episode thing could b...I agree with you that the 25 episode thing could be looked at both ways. I tend to believe it's a positive and not a negative if only because the order came before the season started and as of last year, we all thought H50's move to Fridays was a big win and that the show was doing very well there, so I don't see why CBS would suddenly anticipate the show's collapse and prepare for it to end. Do you see what I mean?<br /><br />Regarding how expensive it is, I am always wary of venturing in those topics because we really have no clue. But two things I have to say against it (and again, I don't know much about it so take it with a grain of salt):<br />1) Multiple sources have reported that H50 enjoys a tax benefit of 15-20% from the state of H50 (this is probably the most noteworthy, though it is from a year ago: http://variety.com/2013/film/features/hawaii-battles-for-film-production-with-incentives-1200570452/), while IMDB (hardly the most credible source of the world, but still) lists a number of episodes filmed with the assistance of Hawaii Production Tax Credits (http://www.imdb.com/company/co0255245/)<br /><br />2) I watch the show so I can attest that the show does some of the most product placement adds I have ever seen, which is certainly to increase its revenues beyond ratings (this is one of those cases in which even DVR numbers would have value)<br /><br /><br />Where does that leave POI? I dunno. But unless it had a big recovery last night, I think I am ready to start considering it a bubble show. I know it sounds strange but assuming that MS/GW combo is kept and that Fridays at 8 are still reality, the only weekend time for POI would be Fridays at 9 and I really am struggling to find reasons for CBS to swap H50 for POI when the ratings improvement would probably be marginal.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-45048269237229362902014-11-18T21:10:54.699-05:002014-11-18T21:10:54.699-05:0050%50%Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-38957962901919757212014-11-18T20:55:27.314-05:002014-11-18T20:55:27.314-05:00So, what are the chances NCIS: Los Angeles wins th...So, what are the chances NCIS: Los Angeles wins the timeslot in the 18-49 demo at least once before the end of the season?Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-50429531421269646012014-11-18T20:53:13.557-05:002014-11-18T20:53:13.557-05:00I think Gary Unmarried could have been a winner fo...I think Gary Unmarried could have been a winner for CBS. They just left it on Wednesdays and never gave it a proper chance on Mondays. That cancellation was always a bummer to me.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-5348044926570585942014-11-18T20:13:21.149-05:002014-11-18T20:13:21.149-05:00Pretty much straight on the head insofar as my pre...Pretty much straight on the head insofar as my predictions. An incredibly rare pleasure considering my runs this year.<br /><br />Not sure how much The Voice would help in any circumstance. I never thought much of State of Affairs from the ads, and Heigl is incredibly controversial.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-76820287327191261782014-11-18T18:46:25.151-05:002014-11-18T18:46:25.151-05:00I just saw Michael Ealy has joined The Following a...I just saw Michael Ealy has joined The Following and felt a sudden sadness, realising I actually miss Almost Human quite a lot. That show feels unfinished and I liked it even though the episodes were confusingly aired out-of-order.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-11683767910122706802014-11-18T16:28:25.289-05:002014-11-18T16:28:25.289-05:00Yes, I think POI could be looking at a Mentalist-s...Yes, I think POI could be looking at a Mentalist-style final season order, out of WB desperation to get up to 100 eps and CBS indifference. They will make more money off keeping Elementary alive and have a lot of dying shows to try and find replacements for (H50, Blue Bloods, Good Wife, CSI, NCIS LA) over the next couple of years.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-18962566716614459162014-11-18T16:18:31.439-05:002014-11-18T16:18:31.439-05:00I really thought that Person of Interest would mov...I really thought that Person of Interest would move to Sundays at 10:00 a la The Mentalist (veteran, non-CBS-owned drama that's to take the brunt of sports overruns to spare other shows that fate). But now that Elementary looks incredibly shaky, CBS may have to punt that show to Sundays in that role just to get its episode order up to fulfill that syndication deal. As perverse as it sounds, unless CBS decides to burn a 4th season of Elementary on Saturdays Person of Interest may be fighting that show for a timeslot.<br /><br /><br />One negative consideration that you didn't list, though, is the expense of Hawaii Five-0. Producing a show in Hawaii is very expensive and I don't know if the state's providing any tax rebates/credits a la Tennessee and ABC's Nashville. It may be why the current season has a reported 25 episode season this year. I still think the bean-counters can justify another season of Five-0 to juice the current syndication deal (as well as the one that will follow after TNT's deal expires), but you could read the super-sized episode order the other way: squeeze as many episodes out as possible now before contract negotiations come up and make the show too pricey to deal with.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-31174001494514067182014-11-18T16:00:56.780-05:002014-11-18T16:00:56.780-05:00called itcalled itSpothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-37991574168650335332014-11-18T15:34:56.908-05:002014-11-18T15:34:56.908-05:00Okay, I put a lot of work into trying to put this ...Okay, I put a lot of work into trying to put this into perspective, but it will probably all be wash by the time finals come out. Here we go. I'm adding some stats about each of the premieres. Here are how the numbers go. The first is its Plus average for the premiere, second is the Plus average of the final hour of the Voice leading in, third is the Plus sum of the competition, and the final one is where it started on the renew/cancel index (or where I project it will). <br />Here we go:<br />.<br />Smash: 160, 325, 198, 2.25<br />.<br />Revolution: 194, 242, 114, 1.73<br />.<br />The Blacklist: 202, 298, 213, 1.65<br />.<br />Believe: 144, 224, 271*, 1.48<br />.<br />State of Affairs: 129, 177, 218, 1.45<br />.<br />*Believe aired against the highly rated Bachelor: After the Rose ceremony.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-28402842913655155552014-11-18T15:11:19.342-05:002014-11-18T15:11:19.342-05:00What hurts them the most is their second tier real...What hurts them the most is their second tier reality shows collapsed. The Biggest Loser a great run in Winter of 2013, but has dropped big in the last two cycles. The Apprentice looked to be on death's row last time we saw it. Solid filler options like Fear Factor and Off Their Rockers ended up being basically burned off. We also know that stuff like The Sing Off can't hold its own for any extended period of time. It would be interesting is they pushed this summer's American Ninja Warrior to fall to rest the Voice. It's like the only reality show on TV that was trending up last year, but I could see it getting lost in the shuffle for the regular seasonSpothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-59038506289935198022014-11-18T14:34:06.650-05:002014-11-18T14:34:06.650-05:00Of course. I know that, but SoA was a puzzle piece...Of course. I know that, but SoA was a puzzle piece to your argument, so you still have more bragging rights. :3Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-67584451247496328202014-11-18T14:11:39.753-05:002014-11-18T14:11:39.753-05:00They can do it the other way around and let the vo...They can do it the other way around and let the voice rest in the fall and have it come back in the Spring.<br /><br />I agree that they are not there yet but I think next year is probably the last time they should do it. At least try it one year to see if it slows down the decline or not.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-31266771781465224082014-11-18T13:52:28.822-05:002014-11-18T13:52:28.822-05:00NBC is simply not in a place where they can rest t...NBC is simply not in a place where they can rest the Voice. They have more depth now than when it first premiered, but it takes up 3 hours of their schedule and Sunday Night Football already makes them redo 4 hours on Sunday every spring. That's 7 hours to fill and you can only air so much DatelineSpothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-74653474704507279672014-11-18T13:30:54.393-05:002014-11-18T13:30:54.393-05:00The decent to good retention after Voice makes hol...The decent to good retention after Voice makes holding it off look worse to me.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-46155488312377088642014-11-18T13:21:45.729-05:002014-11-18T13:21:45.729-05:00Oddly enough, The Voice grew two tenths only to lo...Oddly enough, The Voice grew two tenths only to lose one tenth and remain the same across the hour. Crazy.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-30251554773269203542014-11-18T13:21:34.428-05:002014-11-18T13:21:34.428-05:00No, I was against stupid NBC scheduling in genera...No, I was against stupid NBC scheduling in general.<br />Others pointed strange scheduling State of Affairs, I just embraced it as yet anotehr proof of Greenblatt's incompetence.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3149153403168306818.post-16287420915350111502014-11-18T13:12:09.558-05:002014-11-18T13:12:09.558-05:00Ah got you then.Ah got you then.Spothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222504847153680060noreply@blogger.com